do not buy these shoes, they absolutly suck up a storm there are better shoes out there for the same price, that edge and other stuff 10 times better, just belive me,theres the five ten mocassym, or the scarpa minima. both very nice shoes. just dont buy these crap shoes.

I bought these shoes after climbing once. They have served me well as a first pair, being quite the value. They are solidly made and perform well...for the most part. The toe box is too big to really jam in small pockets, and they''''re not very useful on mega-inclines. However, for straight-up edging, they sure do the job.

These are My first pare of shoes. I''ve got one full long season on them and they are still holding up. I started climbing outdoors at about 5.7, 5.8 cracks. then up to a 5.11 slab and 10.c/d face. The shoes are stiff enought to handle the hand and fist sized cranks with out pain. They exel on slab climbs where there flat profile and super sticky rubber performs very well. They edge well. Most of my climbing was done on squamish granete with some sharp Skaha evolved sand stone. I WEAR SIZE 11U.S. STREET SHoes and my climbing shoes 8.5 u.s. Some one said that these shoes can''t perfome on hard climbs can''t be more wrong. On hard sport leads 5.10c and d(I''m a beginner) I''ve never felt that my abilaty is exeding my shoes capabilaty. And I use my feet more than any thing else. They even stuck well on inverted gym walls with a little creativaty. keep in mind that these shoes will streach a far bit buy them small. your feet will stick the the wall better if you do.

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These are My first pare of shoes. I''ve got one full long season on them and they are still holding up. I started climbing outdoors at about 5.7, 5.8 cracks. then up to a 5.11 slab and 10.c/d face. The shoes are stiff enought to handle the hand and fist sized cranks with out pain. They exel on slab climbs where there flat profile and super sticky rubber performs very well. They edge well. Most of my climbing was done on squamish granete with some sharp Skaha evolved sand stone. I WEAR SIZE 11U.S. STREET SHoes and my climbing shoes 8.5 u.s. Some one said that these shoes can''t perfome on hard climbs can''t be more wrong. On hard sport leads 5.10c and d(I''m a beginner) I''ve never felt that my abilaty is exeding my shoes capabilaty. And I use my feet more than any thing else. They even stuck well on inverted gym walls with a little creativaty. keep in mind that these shoes will streach a far bit buy them small. your feet will stick the the wall better if you do.

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These are the best beginner''s shoe out there. I went through two or three pairs in my first couple of years climbing. They have ton''s of rubber to make up for sloppy footwork, and stealth is the stickiest rubber on the market in my opinion. My first pair lasted about nine months climbing 4-5 days a week, indoor and out. Very comfortable, even when you buy them down 1 12 sizes. as for the people saying they don''t perform past 5.9, it''s probably because you guys are 5.9 climbers. I have flashed 10+ in them and i didn''t think that they inhibited performance. I have since used moccasym''s, and i think they are a superior shoe, but for anyone who needs an all around shoe up to about 5.11 or so, I would highly recomend them!!

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Excellent Shoe! These are my first pair of climbing shoes, and I don''t think I oculd have chosen a better first time shoe. Lots of rubber on them to make up for sloppy/uggly footwork. VERY comfertable. Warning, I got mine in street shoe size, and they''ve streched enought that I have to wear thick socks in them, and can still wiggle my foot around. They''re now about nine months old, and are still in great shape despite lots of climbing and bouldering. As for the people saying that they aren''t good for anything over 5.9, people saying that are just using their shoes as an excuse for lack of ability or something like that. I bet you guys would say you''d climb harder if you had a lighter harness. I didn''t have thoughts that the shoes were holding me back untill I got into the 12 and up range on facey stuff, and really overhung boulder problems. I think that they just force you to learn good footwork. All in all they are a amazing shoe for the price.

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I purchased these with my employees'' discount at HTO, they retail at HTO for 99 bones. I''m a backpacker who is just getting back into climbing, I’ve taken these things outdoors twice and have been hitting up the gym about once a week. I think the purple color is attractive, helps pick up chicks. Plus the stealth C4 rubber sole can be replaced for a minor bit of cash. In my opinion these are the best shoes for a beginner or sporadic climber, they do better outside than they do in the gym. There is a ton of rubber on the toe, which can make jamming it into little cracks tough but I think its edging and comfort more than make up for its advanced technical shortcomings. Good all around climbing shoe, they may slow you down once you get into the 5.9 and upward arena of climbing. That being said, I perfectly happy rocking out like a purple shoed player on the 5.6s in my gym for the next couple months. Not that these shoes can’t tackle the 5.8s and 5.9s and tricky boulder problems, but I’m not quite there yet, at least not consistently and practice makes perfect. These shoes won’t slow down your learning process, but they’ll assist in the patience needed to get really good. The price speaks for itself, most shoes will run you well over 120$, these will give you thousands of hours of good climbing assistance for a very good price.

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never used them personally, but the grapevine has had some nice things to say. All you really need is a resoleing kit, which can be purchased at HTO. 5.10''s web page give some suggestions on when i

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Boreal Ace La Sportiva... slipper something both good, more advanced, more expensive shoes.

These were my first pair of climbing shoes and let me tell you they rock! My first climb in them was a 5.5 traverse and the last climb was a 5.11b redpoint. I totally recommend them to anyone. Size them big for all day comfort and size them small for edging and great smearing. Stealth rubber rocks.

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These are the second pair of shoes that I bought since starting to climb 8 months ago in the gym. The first pair, Boreal Stingers, fit like a glove and work with precision, but I was thinking more about the pain in my toe joints than about the climbs. I definitely bought these for the comfort, and heck, I love the color!! I don't have any complaints yet, climbing at beginner/intermediate level... it is just so nice not to have to deal with constant pain. I am very happy with my Spires. I may graduate to a more technical shoe one day, but I recommend these if they fit. I also have no problem with this "heel bubble" mentioned by others. Good value for the money.

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Tried a similar shaped rental pair (brand??) and Boreal Stingers.

i thought for a first pair of climbing shoes they were acceptable to get you started, especially if you are not sure if you will continue climbing. but as you advance in climbing the difficulty of the climbs can be made easier in some cases with a better pair of shoes. such as if you are a slab climber like me, a different shoe is neede if you want to do well, but for places like the red river gourge in ky, where it is very juggy, these shoes do just fine.

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