I now have the timberline outfitter 4 with a vestibule, it has been through the worst weather you can throw at it. wind blown to god knows what mph.I looked outside to see my buddies in other tents outlined by the tent walls covering them, while the timberline took the worst wind and made out just fine . I can still hear the cracking of other tents fiberglass poles giving in to the winds fury. In rain ...next to northface ...its a must have for the room and rainless nights I have had. I will never buy another tent other than this...my last tent!

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coleman, northface, msr , mountain hardware , and well ozark trails(ozark fails) and now TIMBERLINE OUTFITTER 4

I have used this tent for many years under the most extreme conditions imaginable, youth backpack trips! The organization I am associated with has several Timberlines, which receive heavy use all summer long. The poles get bent, the stuffsacks rips, the cord-shocks break...and yet, the tents live on…and on…and on. True, we have had to replace zippers (after several years), and repair punchers, but the tents have withstood severe punishment (kids are not always the most careful of creatures). If I could make one change in the design, I’d extend the rain fly by 1 foot all the way around (which we have done. The extra weight is worth the added protection). I have survived: week-long monsoons, horrendous winds, hail stones the size of golf balls, and summer snowstorms, and I have the Timberline to thank (shelter-wise that is). Dollar for dollar, the Timberline is hard to beat.

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Sierra designs - Strech Dome, Kelty

I first encountered one of these babies at a National Scout Jamboree back in the 80's, and it was love at first sight. Easy to set up and take down, roomy, and airy... A great all-purpose tent. I bought a 4 man a couple of years ago, waterproofed it myself, and have never had a problem with it. Yes, the zippers to get caught on the sides once and a while, but if you are careful it's not a problem. It's also a little heavy, but not too bad. I have owned two other tents (An Academy Broadway and a Eureka Guide Series) and used countless others, and I love the Timberline's indestructible aluminum poles most of all. Too many times have I heard the sickening crunch/snap of fiberglass during setup or takedown, not a problem anymore. I expect to have this tent for another 20 years at least.

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Our scout troop uses the 4 man standard tent exclusively. They are excellent tents for the money. The only real problem we experience with the tents are the zippers. They last only a year or so befor they wear out and have to be replaced. They also catch the material of the tent and tend to rip it. Although somewhat heavy for backpacking, divided between two scouts the weight is manageable and allows for spacious accomodations at the end of the day.

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It should be noted that Eureka makes 2 versions of this tent. There is the standard version and the heavier-duty "expedition" model. I suspect that the reason for the disparities in reviews - from loving to loathing - is due to the fact that a lot of BSA Troops buy the heavier duty model and most others buy the standard issue model. Note that the BSA users love it and others - well, they may not. The heavy duty model has a number of improvements that address most if not all of the concerns indicated. The Campmor catalog is the only source I know of that offers both models of this tent. There is a small difference in cost but the xtra $ spent is well worth it. With care, this tent will last for 10+ years with minimal problems. The BSA has standardized on this tent not only because it's relatively cheap, but because it's a very, very good piece of camping equipment. Note that my double "5-star" rating is based on the heavy duty model of this tent.....

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I used this tent for three years on trips from time periods of 1-3 weeks in many different climates and wheather conditions. Now that I got that out of the way, I can say this tent blows. The zippers break, and it leaks like a sive and even the shock cord breaks to pieces after normal use. I can even complain about the stuff sack ripping on trail and fixing it with duct tape. To top it all off, it is heavy. Don't buy this tent if you accually use it to backpack heavilly.

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I have used this tent for over seven years my scout troop has ten of them. The only problem we have had was the zippers went bad. But other than that they have held up great with a group of boy scouts that just beat the hell out of them. A to heavy for a long backing trips but great for a weekend trip.

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This tent is pretty decent for car camping. I've used it 1 season so far and the only problem I've come across is that the zippers get stuck in the fabric along the zippers path. It is a major pain to get it free too! Another thing is that if the fly is not tied down properly the bottom edges of the tent will absorb (in heavy rain) the water and things will get wet.

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Over the last 25 years, I have used the Eureka 4 person tent primarily for BWCA extended family trips and for Boy Scout outings. In addition, our standard troop tent is either the 2 or 4 person tent. There is no question that the 2 person tent is comfortably a 2 or 3 person tent, but with great comfort in heavy rain, and if tied down, in very heavy wind. I have rarely used a tent in 0 to -30 degree temps, but had no problem with it. I always carefully dry the tent immediately after coming home, put seam seaker usually yearly, causing very little to go wrong. I have had to replace the zipper with heavier ones on the oldest tent, and did replace the rain fly of the 1976 tent. All in all, a very durable and easy to use tent where kids and families are involved

Customer Service

I dealt with a local supplier with no problem

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Cabela's Expedition tent

These tents don't do well in snow and ice. They leak. In a group, the weight is Ok and setup isn't tough. They don't stand up for more than a few years of heavy use. The price is nice, though.

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